Thursday, May 10, 2012

Two cool things and one that is definitely not

  • My parish has the Vatican II hymnals by Corpus Christi Watershed press. When I first saw them I was a bit worried. Despite the name, I'm happy to report, the book does not contain any hippy dippy music, no Lord of the Dance, no Eagles Wings. It does contain simple, sober hymns, beautiful artwork, and the readings for every Sunday and Feast so we have been able to get rid of those nasty, flimsy misalettes. It has the order of the Mass in Latin and English for the Novus Ordo and the TLM and all the sung propers. If your church musician uses the hymnal the way it was designed you will hear chant at Mass. Well played, Father Eagle!



  • I just downloaded the Laudete Catholic app for my  Droid phone and I love it. It has the rosary, chaplets, daily readings, the liturgy of the hours and hundreds of prayers. It's also free. 

  • I was reading Crisis magazine and came across this old chestnut by Steve Skojec. He was going on about how Christians need to be engaged in the culture. Here is a culture story for you: Last week a co-worker went to an after work get together at a local bar. At the party a man told a "hilarious" story about his adventure with a stripper/prostitute at his friend's bachelor party. It was disgusting. To put it delicately, he performed a sex act with the prostitute in public that I can not describe. If anyone at the table found this shocking or even mildly distasteful they did not show it My co-worker said that the women as well as the men laughed and egged the man on to tell more. These people were all middle and upper class. All were college educated. They were to sort of people who are held up as examples by the rest of us when we talk to the underclass kids.The man who told the foul tale is a corporate attorney. My co-worker is Catholic. That's your mainstream, pornified everyday normal culture folks and had I been there I would not have been engaged. I would've walked out. Life in America is a magnificent banquet. There are wonderful things on the table and there's some poison items as well. Refusing to eat everything on the table does not make you a sheltered, delicate, useless, humourless geek.


13 comments:

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

Dymphna, I'm glad your new hymnals don't have that silly 'Lord Of The Dance" in it. However, does your new ones still have Amazing Grace and Mighty Fortress in it? I really don't understand why any Catholic hymnal would have a hymn by the arch-heretic Luther who rent Christiandom in two. Likewise, Amazing Grace. It's conception of grace is Protestant, so why is this hymn even sung at mass?
About a year and a half ago, apologist Dave Armstrong became enraged at Michael Voris because Voris explained for the same reason I just gave that AG doesn't belong in a Catholic hymnal or mass. I defended Voris by saying why should we bother singing Peotestant songs and hymns when we have 2000 years of Catholic music to draw from? For saying this, Armstrong labeled me a Pharisee.

Dymphna said...

Nope, no Amazing Grace and no Mighty Fortress.

Dave Armstrong said...

"Enraged"? LOL I am almost never "enraged" about anything, even at "scotju's" frequent tomfoolery. It's ridiculous. But the usual from him . . .

But for those who actually care (what a novelty!) about reading a man's argument, rather than hearing some second-hand, warmed-over, jaded version of something, here is my actual paper:

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2010/11/is-amazing-grace-anti-catholic-hymn.html

Baron Korf said...

It is an interesting conundrum. We are called to be salt and light to the world, which St Jose Marie Escriva said was to chase out the darkness and preserve from corruption. Yet, St Benedict saved western civilization by more or less running away from it. I guess as long as you do it for God's purposes, He'll make it work. But that's a pretty heavy conditional.

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

Dave, I'll repeat what I've said before: there's no need for any kind of Protestantism in the Catholic Church. That includes their songs and hymns. Their music reflect their theology, which the Catholic Church opposes. All of their music is Anti-Catholic by virtue of being Protestant. For that very reason, they can't be used rightly in a Catholic Mass. It's just as stupid as trying to put a part for a Ford on a Cadillac. Ford and Cadillac parts aren't interchangable. You would only damage the car in trying to make it work. The same is true of the Church; you can only hurt the church by bringing in the msic of heretics.

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

Dymphna, here's an article that ties in with what you said and what I commented on about Church music. http://unamsanctamcatholicam.blogspot.com/2012/05//transplanting-tradition.html You might want to link to it.

Gina said...

Oh my goodness - YES! America is definitely like a buffet of wonderful with plenty of poison mixed in. Just because there are those of us who refuse to be a party to the degradation doesn't make us ignorant or lacking in our Christian duty. Humpf!

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As a woman who veils, I thought you might be interested. :)

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Joe Potillor said...

I was at the Cathedral inn Reno, NV, where they also have the Vatican II Hymnal...I was extremely impressed.

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

One final word about Protestant songs and hymns in the Catholic Church. When one leaves one religion for another, he leaves everything from that religion behind, including their songs. When I left the the cult founded by Herbert Armstrong, I left everything behind. When I left Protestantism, I left everything behind. But when I started to use the missalette when I became Catholic, I discovered Protestant hynns such as 'Mighty Fortress' and 'Lord Of The Dance' were in it. This puzzled me, for I knew from my days as a Lutheran that MF was an Anti-Catholic fight song, and LOTD was a hymn from the wacky Shaker sect. So what were they doing in the missalette? I soon dicovered that a spirit of liberalism has come into the Church around the time of the Vatican II council. That spirit encouraged the rejection of everything that was traditional, even though the papers from V II said nothing about rejecting the traditional worship of the church. So we now have all of this heretical music in our church, instead of Catholic music written by Catholic hearts and minds. We don't need the songs of heretics, leave thenm behind with the heretics, and sing hymns and songs reflecting the faith once delivered.

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

Dymphna, I looked at the V II Hymnal, and it is beautiful. It looks like the music is mostly Catholic, but I noticed that the videos highlighted a Protestant hymn by Issac Watts. However, from the looks of things, it's a first class hymnal. If it wasn't called the V II hymnal, I would have mistakened it for a pre-V II hymnal, because of the classic artwork in it. I think I buy one for my personal use, and if I love it enough, I'll tell my priest about it, and who knows, maybe my parish will be singing from it in a few years!

Dymphna said...

I hope so Steve. The hymnal really is impressive and it beats that old horrible Gather thing any day.

Steve "scotju" Dalton said...

An article of why Catholic music is so bad:http://www.chantcafe.com/2011/12/why-is-catholic-music-sch-mess.html

Hans Georg Lundahl said...

I am not against Lord of the Dance.

I'd not use it in liturgy, but quite a few other songs are also non-liturgical.