Thursday, June 14, 2018

Question time for my pastor

Ann Barnhardt has a new post on the Eucharistic Fast that really got my attention and left me feeling a bit worried. She's absolutely right about the softness of the one hour fast. For most people who aren't sick or who don't work a non 9-5 shift it is easy.What alarmed me was her argument that the three hour fast  isn't much better because the stomach is not empty and if one really loves the Lord, volunteering to do the fast from midnight to Mass is a better practice. I started wondering if I am actually showing Our Savior a rank insult by practicing the one hour fast. I'm going to ask Fr. Hawk (that's his nick name because he rather resembles a Red Shouldered Hawk) what he thinks.



9 comments:

Stabat Mater said...

As much as I am a big Barnhardt fan and typically agree with herx I think we have to consider several factors. Like my 13 yo boy who is growing like a weed, tall, skinny, tons of allergies, asthmatic, and needs to take a handful of supplements every morning. We have almost an hour drive to Mass (nausea), and then he serves 2 Masses until noon. I don't think his usual waffle or toast & swig of juice at 6:45 am is still sitting on his stomach by the time he receives Our Lord at 10:30ish. Also, he serves weeknight Masses (7:00 pm). We leave by 4, to beat traffic, and then have another hour back after devesting, etc, which puts us home well after 9 pm. So he eats a bite at 5:30 because I'd rather not have my very scheduled kid pass out from kneeling with a torch for long periods. We've had boys pass out on several occasions. I just think time, place, circumstances, personal health, and common sense have to play into discerning one's ability to fast since midnight, though I can & usually do. We kind of have a policy of "consume only what you need to get through" so no one is ever very indulgent before any Mass anyway.

Oakes Spalding said...

The new rule boils down to "don't eat during Mass."

I've often "cheated" by having a coffee before the bus ride there. Why I've observed that little NO compromise while denouncing others shows what a selfish idiot I can sometimes be.

Thanks for the reminder.

Restore-DC-Catholicism said...

Ann Barnhardt is certainly entitled to her opinions on this matter, but that's all they are - her opinions. Be careful of statements such as "if one really loves the Lord, volunteering to do the fast from midnight to Mass is a better practice". Mark 7 defines the sin of the pharisees as people ascribing to their personal practices and ideas the weight that is only due to God's commands.
Ms. Barnhardt has many fine things to offer, but none of us bloggers constitutes the Magisterium. I'd be interested to hear what Father has to say.

kam said...

Our Sunday Mass is at 3:45 pm, so we observe the three hour fast. But, if we decide to travel and go to the 10:30 am Mass, then our fast becomes from whenever we had our last snack the night before. If your Sunday Mass is in the morning, then a longer than three hour fast seems very possible; with the 3:45 Mass, that's a tough one.

Michael Dowd said...

One of these days I expect Ann to recommend self imposed flagellation. In certain cases this might be advisable. I wonder what Father's reaction would be to that form of penance.

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Mrs. H. said...

Sorry, but I think Ann has gone over the top on this and several recent comments.

Anita Moore said...

Three years ago, Ann Barnhardt stated she would never attend a Mass celebrated by a priest who has not publicly rejected the policy of administering Communion to those in grave public sin. Fine, as far as it goes; but then she goes on to say:

To be present at such a Mass, where Our Blessed Lord in the Eucharist was being knowingly desecrated by the priest at the distribution of Holy Communion, would be a grave, grave sin.

https://www.barnhardt.biz/2015/02/26/plausible-hypothesis-on-what-exactly-the-abomination-of-desolation-might-be/

Really? What about our Sunday obligation, which does bind on pain of mortal sin? Not everyone lives somewhere where priests that meet her criteria can be found. The Masses even of priests sunk in an abyss of grave sin are still valid and licit, and, all things being equal, our obligations under the law still stand.

It’s one thing to disagree with the law and work and pray to have it changed; it’s something else entirely to purport to impose obligations greater than those the law imposes. Barnhardt needs to be approached with extreme caution, if at all.

Mary Ann Kreitzer said...

I go to 8:00 a.m. Mass on Sunday. It's easy to practice the midnight fast that day because I typically don't eat or drink anything but water before we go. But I often have a cup of coffee before 8:30 daily Mass because I'm usually up at 6:30 or 7:00. The length of the fast is a Church discipline; not a doctrine. Anyone who wants to do a stricter fast is certainly able to do it, but to proclaim it to the world and saying it's a "proof" that you love the Lord more than those who don't do it reminds me of little kids going "nanny-nanny-boo-boo; I'm better than you-oo."

Really?

Isn't it better to do it quietly and offer it up to the Lord. Isn't proclaiming it like the pharisee of the Pharisee and the Publican?

Lord, be merciful to me, a sinner!