Monday, February 21, 2011

No matter what you've done you can repent

Dr. Bernard Nathanson was big time abortionist and he was so committed to killing babies that when he got one of his girlfriends pregnant he coldly and calmly aborted the child himself. That's right, he killed his own son. In the 1970s Dr. Nathanson saw ultasound pictures and something in him was touched. He stopped doing abortions, became a pro-life activist and converted to the Faith. Years ago, I read his book Hand of God and I never forgot it. Rest in peace Dr. Nathanson.


Keystone said...

This is the basis of Christianity.
The Crucifixion and Resurrection lead to eternal life. Because HE came back, we, as believers can come back and be with Him eternally.

The wages of sin is death.
The price was paid by Christ.

He came from His place
To our place
To take our place
So we could go to His place!

But Christ specifically ruled out the title of this blogpost when he spoke in Mark 3:28-29 (among various spots):

"Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

[CAPS mine for emphasis]

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is the ONLY sin that can not, and will not be forgiven per Christ.

In modern times, this would be equivalent to attributing exorcism to satan, and his power, as opposed to the Holy Spirit intervention for the possessed.

It is an intentional sin, from a hardened heart.

In Matthew 12:31-33, Christ was on the same topic, but allowed forgiveness if you blasphemed even HIM, but NOT the Holy Spirit.

"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come."

We repent to be forgiven.
This sin will NEVER be forgiven, per Jesus Christ.

Mark's version is the first recorded, but I think Matthew puts it in a way that can not be mistaken.

This in no way reflects on the repentance of the abortionist in your post, and his forgiveness.
I add it to be sure people are aware there IS a sin that will never be forgiven.
It behooves one to know that sin, and stay far away.

Mary Ann Kreitzer said...

I'm not sure I agree with you, Keystone. No one knows what the sin against the Holy Spirit is. Some speculate that it is the sin of final unrepentance which obviously can't be forgiven because the sinner won't ask for forgiveness.

But Dymphna is also right when she says, "No matter what you've done you can repent." There is no sin too big for God if the sinner repents of it. The only sin that can't be forgiven is the one the sinner refuses to repent for.

Keystone said...

Hello Mary Ann,

You assert that no one knows what the sin against the Holy Spirit is.

This is not true. Several commentaries are available (even online) to explore for intimate discussion, and discernment on that topic.

However, when you say the blog title "No matter what you've done you can repent", is also true, you are absolutely correct.

But you repent for a reason.
To be forgiven.

And we are not permitted to pick and choose which parts of the Bible we choose to say are true, and which parts are not true.
We accept all Scripture, or none.

Many hard sayings of Christ led disciples to simply give up as followers and go unless you eat my flesh and drink my blood, you shall have no part of ME. Many took Him at His word on that (thinking espousement of cannibalism), and went home.
You won't find them in heaven.

Your quibble is not with me, it has to be taken up with Christ, for He is the one who proclaimed the sin that can not EVER be forgiven.

Therefore, you may repent away all day and night forever, but your sin that can not be forgiven WILL NOT ever be forgiven.

The alternative to that thought is to call Jesus Christ a liar.
He expects that from some, and allowed for it, by saying,... to blaspheme the Son Of Man (his favorite self-reference) WILL be forgiven. Blaspheme the Holy Spirit and it will never be forgiven, making moot any repentence.

But your reasoning that because it is not understood, it is waived, is dangerous territory to stand.

Your last sentences:
"There is no sin too big for God if the sinner repents of it. The only sin that can't be forgiven is the one the sinner refuses to repent for."....
come from satan, not Christ, for they conflict with the word of God.

There IS a sin too big for God to forgive. Repentence to the sin is not relevant if Christ said it will not be forgiven.

This is the same thinking that went on in the Garden of Eden, with a challenge in thinking set up as to "Did God really say or mean this or that?".
The consequences were deadly, and the solution from God was the Cross and Resurrection.

"The only sin that can't be forgiven is the one the sinner refuses to repent for"...
comes from the Scripture Book of Mary Ann, as surely as Christ said to Peter "Get thee behind me satan" as he recognized Peter's proposal to forgo the Cross was a word from satan, not Peter....a temptation only a God could resist.

If anyone were to read the above line from you, blaspheme the Holy Spirit, and repent, the consequences will follow as Christ ordained, NOT as you have stated.

I quoted two sources in the Bible.
Mark has the earliest authority in writing, but the Matthew version is specific and clear.

And, last, I suspect if the sin could not be committed, Christ would have spent NO time, of his precious ministry gabbing about it.
When a man knows he is going to die, he does not spend any time on anything but what counts eternally, and of gravest importance to all.

Christ was that man too.

I am going to stick with the Word of God, and pray no one is misled by your stated position, unbiblical, and contrary to the Word.

There are many hard sayings by Christ. There are many allegories and analogies, that give rise to opposing view over the ages, as man interprets what he sees in a given age.

But I know of no quibble by anyone, disputing the unforgivable sin.

God, the Omnipotent, all Powerful God, has limits. He placed them on himself.
For example, "free will".
And in honoring His self imposed limits on our free will, we find ourselves trying to get back into the Garden still. Repentence comes in handy there, except for one thing, and that was then stated by Christ.

It is important that we never put words in Christ's mouth that he did not utter.

It is even MORE important that we hear and obey, the words He DID say.

He flat out stated there is a sin that is NOT forgivable.

I take Him at His Word on that.

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