Monday, June 02, 2014

Dust up in blog land

There was a rather rough dust up in Catholic blog land last week. Carol at Tenth Crusade and Steve Skojec  both cover all the particulars. It's over this time but my question is this: Why do we defer to Catholic celebrities? They don't have a lick of teaching authority and they sure shouldn't have any power. Some guy or gal with a Facebook account, a lecture tour and an EWTN gig is not a substitute for your priest.


6 comments:

Lynne said...

I've cut way back on my blog reading habits, especially the "experts" at Patheos and Catholic Answers...

Steve Dalton said...

Why do blog celebrities appeal to us? The same reasons why reality show celeb's appeal to us. they're flashy, sensationalistic, outrageous, and, in a sick way, entertaining. People who are serious about their faith don't go to idiots like Shea, Keating, or Fisher to learn the faith. They go to solid, orthodox books or priests or laymen with a good reputation for orthodoxy, scholarship, and good Christian behavior.

Joe Potillor said...

Agreed

Gina Guarnere said...

I originally posted the Skojec entry until I started reading through the comments. He ended up being incredibly uncharitable, himself, to several people.

His thematic point was right, but he obviously didn't take the lesson to heart, himself, so I had to remove the link from my page.

That made me really sad. Why can't folks just be respectful? Why does everything have to be this huge "us vs. them" war?

I seriously don't get it. It makes me terribly, terribly sad.

Steve said...

Yeah, I got punchy with Thomas McDonald. Because he's an egotistical, condescending jerk, and this isn't the first time I've run into that from him.

I'm a human being, Gina, and a man to boot. I get angry. Sue me. But my uncharity (questioning credibility of someone known best for reviewing video games and yet is incredibly dismissive of those who disagree with him on theology) pales in comparison to the kinds of things the Patheos crowd have been saying about myself, or Hilary White. And out of 250+ comments, the only person I took a couple swings at was him.

Not saying it's right to lose my cool, but I invite anyone to wind up on the receiving end of attacks, ridicule, calumny, and snark from people with audiences the size Patheos has and to not want to practice a little aggressive self defense. Remember, these people were going after the job of one of my long-time friends. It wasn't just a little disagreement.

If you were a regular reader of my blog, you would know I am incredibly fair to my commenters -- including those who disagree with me -- 99% of the time. Sometimes, there's that 1% that gets under your skin.

As I've said, my cause for sainthood is a long way off.

Hans Georg Lundahl said...

"Why do blog celebrities appeal to us?"

Might be different from case to case?

"The same reasons why reality show celeb's appeal to us. they're flashy, sensationalistic, outrageous, and, in a sick way, entertaining."

Why "in a sick way"?

"People who are serious about their faith don't go to idiots like Shea, Keating, or Fisher to learn the faith."

No, not to learn ones faith, if one is already Catholic.

I don't know Fisher.

Keating is wrong in denying Fundamentalism at same time as Protestantism, these are not the same, the great awakening and Morris are NOT Martin Luther or Calvin.

Shea is usually good, when trying to make Fundies understand Catholic dogmata they have a prejudice about in the Classical shape.

"They go to solid, orthodox books or priests or laymen with a good reputation for orthodoxy, scholarship, and good Christian behavior."

Sure, if it's about learning the faith and not about learning to defend it against the newest common errors, from later than when Sts Robert Bellarmine or Francis of Sales were around.

When it comes to that, some even go to Chesterton!