Saturday, October 24, 2009

You know what I'm sick of? Kennedys meddling with the Church

A long, long time ago a young Bobby Kennedy went to hear Fr. Feeney give a talk. Fr. Feeney made his famous declaration that there's no salvation outside the church. Bobby had non Catholic friends and was worried about them. He went home and told his dad who said he'd speak to Richard about it. Who was Richard? Cardinal Cushing. "Richard" sent someone to investigate. Eventually Fr. Feeney was silenced, anyone who went to his center was refused the sacramant of marriage and he was temporarily execommunicated. I don't have any sympathy for Fr. Fenney. He seemed to have serious issues with obedience and certain classes of people, but something about this story bothered me. "Richard" was supposed to be the cardinal, not the personal errand boy for one powerful family.

Fast forward to today. Patrick Kennedy, Teddy's son made an attack statement about the Catholic Church. His bishop, thank God is not a lap dog and here is his response.

Patrick, your family may own the Boston diocese but you and your cousin, Kathleen do NOT own the Church and you DO NOT speak for Catholics.

12 comments:

Kindred Spirit said...

Of course, Father Feeney was only echoing the words "extra ecclesiam nulla salus" of the Council of Trent, a dogmatic council whose words are to be believed by all Catholics. The story of Cardinal Cushing is frightening, but it explains quite a bit. May God reward Bishop Tobin for his courage, and may that courage become contagious so that all bishops behave as admirably.

Joe of St. Thérèse said...

Can't we just excommunicate them all?

A WASHINGTONDC CATHOLIC said...

Why should we expect any less of the Cafeteria Catholics like him.

Mary Ellen said...

I'm so happy to see that the Bishop put Patrick and the rest of his family in their place. I'm so sick of the so called "progressive liberals" telling the church what they should believe in and how they should practice their belief. If Patrick doesn't like it, he can walk out...and don't let the Cathedral door hit him in the a$$ on the way out.

Robert said...

Now that the more conservative Anglicans are being welcomed into the Church, perhaps the progressive "Catholics" can join the Episcopal Church.

R J said...

Mrs. Dymphna, Father Feeney was declared excommunicate by Pius XII and denounced by Evelyn Waugh. Is anyone seriously suggesting that they were on the Kennedy fix too?

I yield to no-one in my loathing of the whole Kennedy / Camelot culture, but there are absolutely legitimate reasons for condemning Feeneyism, as the book on the subject by Father F. Laisney makes obvious. (Father Laisney is an SSPX priest, so is hardly a flaming liberal.)

TH2 said...

Camelot is coming to a close. It is fading away...

Not diminishing the damage done by Feeney, but was he not reconciled with the Church in 1972?

Dymphna said...

No, I don't have a problem with what happened to Fr. Feeney, I do dislike how it got started. The Holy Father never would've known what Fr. Feeney was saying if Cardinal Cushing hadn't been doing his buddy's bidding.

Lynne said...

Luckily, for Patrick Kennedy's soul, he lives in the Diocese of Providence (RI). If he lived in the Archdiocese of Boston, the Cardinal wouldn't have said a peep.

Cornelius said...

R J, With his background, Evelyn Waugh was hardly the one to throw stones. Here's what Fr. Feeney had to say about him in his book London is a Place: "Among Monsignor Knox's non-competitors, but on the list of his recurrent callers, was Mr. Evelyn (pronounced Evil-in) Waugh, whose father, a London publisher, supplied his sons with early printing privileges in pornography, before one of them (Evelyn) turned to hagiography, and whitened his sepulcher with the life of a saint."

As for Fr. Laisney, he followed that excommunicated French bishop who set up his own hierarchy into schism. This priest also corroborated with Williamson, the embarrassment of the Pope, and all Catholics, traditional and otherwise. Is Laisney even Catholic?

Hans Georg Lundahl said...

"there are absolutely legitimate reasons for condemning Feeneyism, as the book on the subject by Father F. Laisney makes obvious. (Father Laisney is an SSPX priest, so is hardly a flaming liberal.)"

I'd like to read it.

In fact, after rejecting Bergoglio on hearing confiermation he had proceeded to sham canonisations of Roncalli and Wojtyla, I first looked at Alejandro IX - the Feeneyite Pope of Buenos Aires - before taking another look at Pope Michael, who I had previously (as a Palmarian) rejected, but whom I knew to be non-Feeneyite and in the meantime (since Gaudete weekend 2011) a priest and a bishop.

Hans Georg Lundahl said...

"R J, With his background, Evelyn Waugh was hardly the one to throw stones. Here's what Fr. Feeney had to say about him in his book London is a Place"

Etc.

In questions of theological orthodoxy, personal life questions are hardly making one "hardly the one to throw stones", especially those involving one's dad rather than self.

No matter how sinful a man be, he is still obliged to doctrinal orthodoxy, and in a calling like that of Evelyn Waugh, a Catholic lay writer, one has a duty to state it in public as well, whether that count as throwing stones or not.

Also, this can hardly have been meant as a discrediting of Father Knox.